It’s possible to infuse learning into situations where participants are not consciously aware that they are learning. In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, leadership expert – and Leading Learning Symposium faculty member – Lisa A. Bing talks about how she often engineers this sort of “subversive” learning.
Lisa also discusses the responsibility that leaders have around learning, how organizations need to change their thinking regarding what effective learning means, and the difference between “education as product” vs. “education as process” – and that’s just scratching the surface.
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[00:18] – Preview of what will be covered in this podcast with Lisa Bing who is a leadership expert, adjunct professor at NYU, founder of Bing Consulting Group, Inc., and faculty member at the upcoming Leading Learning Symposium.
[01:32]- Introduction to Lisa Bing and some background information about who she is and what she does.
[02:58] – What do you see as the relationship between learning and leadership and how do they fit together? Lisa explains how leading and learning are indispensable to each other and that she has a subversive approach to learning that is part of everything she does.
[04:27] – Lisa shares some examples of what she means when she says she takes a subversive approach to learning.
[06:19] – A discussion about the importance of asking the question, “What is learning?” and understanding that learning is a function of change and something new–whether it’s knowledge, skill, or behavior.
[07:54] – Do you find that the leaders in organizations you work with are thinking about learning (for themselves and their staff)? Is learning on their radar? Lisa explains that she does not have a lot of leaders talking to her about learning. She talks about the responsibility that leaders have around learning and how organizations need to change their thinking regarding what effective learning means.
[10:31] – Lisa shares an example involving meetings to demonstrate simple things leaders can do to activate informal/casual learning.
[13:25] – A discussion about “education as product” vs. “education as process” and the importance of understanding how people learn.
[15:24] – Celisa and Lisa further discuss the importance of truly understanding how we learn as well as the difference between childhood education and adult learning. Lisa also shares why understanding the emotional component to learning is so important.
[17:54] – Lisa explains how she helps leaders see that they need to model learning and how she puts herself in new situations in order to stay in touch with how others may feel about new learning.
[18:55] – What is your personal approach to learning? How do you keep learning and growing your knowledge and skills? Lisa shares how her job requires her to learn all the time and that’s something she loves. She also shares the importance of being in a community of learners (social learning) as well as reading and exploration.
[22:38] Lisa explains how adults tend to learn when something changes in their world and that the challenge lies in inspiring learning in familiar situations.
[24:12] –As a faculty member of the upcoming Leading Learning Symposium, what can people expect from you in terms of your style of teaching and facilitation? Lisa reveals that she will “keep it real” and will say what others may not. She also shares that she thinks a little differently and that her facilitation style is very interactive.
[26:05] – How to connect with Lisa:
- Visit her website at: https://www.bingconsulting.biz
- Call her: 718-398-8516
- Email her: lbing @ bingconsulting.biz
[26:52] – Wrap-Up
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[28:33] – Sign off